ROUNDTABLES ★ 9 upvotes 2016

Ask HN: At what point does your side project become your job?

The Founder's Submission

Direct narrative and submission text authored by @iqonik on Hacker News:

I run www.propertywizard.io and also work full-time. I launched in December and I am at £544 monthly recurring revenue. The cost to run is roughly £1k a year, so I'm profitable if you don't take into account my time.

I have a child and a mortgage to upkeep so I cannot leave my job until it is making significantly more, however, I know it needs my full attention to reach that stage.

What would you do?

I'm wondering if I should seek investment to cover my living costs. I'm not sure investors would be happy knowing their money is literally buying my time?

Retrospective Overview & Key Insights

Distilled analysis of the business dynamics, operational challenges, and strategic takeaways:

An open Ask HN community consultation from 2016 where @iqonik convened hundreds of developers and bootstrappers to share real experiences, hard numbers, and tactics.

Core Principles for Independent Builders:
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Participants share raw revenue figures, churn rates, and stack decisions that corporate PR never publishes.
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Recurring answers reveal that distribution, not coding skill, is almost universally the rate-limiting step in developer businesses.
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Practical recommendations on bookkeeping, payment gateways (Stripe vs Paddle), and freelance-to-product transitions.
Community Debate Themes:

Hundreds of active indie hackers contributed case studies, pricing heuristics, and pitfalls to avoid when moonlighting on side projects.

Founder's Discussion Replies (@iqonik)

Direct clarifications and follow-up comments shared by the author during the live discussion:

OP @iqonik Original Author
2016

I should mention the reason I haven't made an 'Apply HN' post is the money available ($20k) wouldn't be enough for me to cover my expenses and quit my job.

Community Discussions & Critical Reviews

High-signal perspectives, counter-arguments, and peer founder insights debated on Hacker News (10 total discussions):

SA @saluki Peer Contributor

Congrats on developing a SaaS with revenue . . . keep bootstrapping . . . you don't need investment.

Polish up your app and code . . . there are some rendering issues on initial load and validation on the login form. Test, improve, polish provide the best UX you can to keep existing customers.

Start a blog with articles on how realtors can use social media, publish often and collect emails/build a list, email that list valuable information and details on PropertyWizard.

Invest some of your revenue in contacting realtors, test out some ideas and see what your ROI is. Try calling realtors in person make a goal of 1, 5 or 10 per day, approach an office with 50 realtors and offer them a group package, test mailing out 100 postcards, track the realtor/office names/provide a unique URL and track signups. Find out what's working to generate signups and focus your efforts there.

Add a signup process on the site (checkout stripe), test three subscription levels, offer a annual discount sign up for 12 months (price of 10). Add an Office package up to XX realtors, email us for custom plans/more realtors. I think focusing on real estate offices with multiple agents might be a good way to grow your subscribers.

Add a favicon, minor but I always notice when they are missing from a site.

Don't sell a piece of your pie at this point, keep growing it.

Good luck, update us on how it's going.

IM @imdsm Peer Contributor
I'm not sure investors would be happy knowing their money is literally buying my time

Isn't that what most investments do in the beginning? Pay for the time for the idea to become a reality and give the founder(s) the ability to realise it?

HE @herbst Peer Contributor

I would try to invest your current revenue in someone who can help you make your product more visible.

HISTORICAL ERA Cloud & Mobile Era (2014–2019)
COMMUNITY SCORE ★ 9 points
TOTAL DISCUSSIONS 10 comments
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