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Ask HN: How to leverage a side project to get out of near poverty

The Founder's Submission

Direct narrative and submission text authored by @glaberficken on Hacker News:

I work a regular 9-5 job doing data analysis (Excel, SQL etc) which brings in just enough money to pay for a 1 bedroom apartment where I live with my wife and 2 daughters (7 and 2 yo).

Truth be told it's not like we live in what the average person would describe as "poverty", but we hardly ever have money to get to the end of the month. And living with 2 fast growing kids in a 1 bedroom apartment is unsustainable. This is starting to bring an unbearable strain on the family.

I consider myself an amateur programmer, I routinely do little python scripts, and I have developed and managed some WordPress sites and all sorts of little tech odd jobs for friends and acquaintances. I'm a very fast learner, but I always failed to take the plunge and dedicate myself to making a better living in programming/dev work.

I feel like an idiot for not using these skills I have to boost my income, but at the same time I'm stuck not having the formal qualifications to apply for a legitimate dev job.

Does anyone have any advice on how you would go about making this transition? I thought about doing some side projects that would bring some extra income, but I absolutely must not leave my current 9-5 and I'm failing to see what type of projects would bring in a bit extra money and still not consume a lot of time. Even an extra 300Euros/Dollar a month would make a lot of difference. What sort of dev work do you think would give me the best "income/time-spent" ratio?

Sorry for the somewhat vague question... I guess I'm the typical perfectionist with imposter syndrome frozen in fear of failure...

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Community Discussions & Critical Reviews

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PO @potta_coffee Peer Contributor
IT @itamarst Peer Contributor

You have other options you can also try:

1. Try to get a raise at your current job. Are you being paid fairly, given experience and other people's salaries?

2. Try to switch to better paying job within your company. If you have additional skills, maybe you can switch to something where you're a little less qualified. Since they know you, hopefully they will trust you to be able to learn new things.

3. Apply to entry level developer jobs elsewhere. "Formal qualification" matters less than skills and willingness to learn to many companies.

JU @justaguyhere Peer Contributor

There are guys making a ton of money with Excel skills. Here is a (smaller) example : https://www.indiehackers.com/interview/ce0aadf068

So it is not a bad skill, and Excel will likely be around for a few more years.

AL @aliswe Peer Contributor

Education and honing your skills. Study on your spare time, make something as a hobby project hones your skills, and also, maybe try bringing this up with your employer. Also, work overtime.

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