ENGINEERING ★ 26 upvotes 2024

Hetzner Cloud Expands to Singapore

Retrospective Overview & Key Insights

Distilled analysis of the business dynamics, operational challenges, and strategic takeaways:

In this technical retrospective (2024), @matteocontrini shares practical architectural lessons learned from running, scaling, or migrating production software under lean constraints.

Core Principles for Independent Builders:
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Defaulting to simpler architectures (such as monolithic frameworks, SQLite, or managed VPS) prevents early engineering bankruptcy.
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Evaluating true compute and egress costs reveals that high cloud bills can often be slashed by 80%+ through judicious re-platforming.
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Code you write at 2 AM as a solo engineer must be easy to debug six months later without complex microservice dependencies.
Community Debate Themes:

HN engineers debated the tradeoffs between cloud convenience and raw server economics, database indexing strategies, and resisting premature architectural complexity.

Community Discussions & Critical Reviews

High-signal perspectives, counter-arguments, and peer founder insights debated on Hacker News (64 total discussions):

HE @Hetzner_OL Peer Contributor

Thanks to the OP for posting our good news! We really appreciate it! :D Just in case anyone would like some more detailed information about our new cloud location:

https://www.hetzner.com/cloud/

Hetzner Docs, Cloud locations: https://docs.hetzner.com/cloud/general/locations Hetzner Docs, Cloud Networks: https://docs.hetzner.com/cloud/networks/faq#can-networks-span-multiple-locations --Katie (Hetzner Online)

HE @Hetzner_OL Peer Contributor

Thanks for posting about our good news! Here's some additional information about the new location: Hetzner Docs, Cloud locations: https://docs.hetzner.com/cloud/general/locations Hetzner Docs, Cloud Networks: https://docs.hetzner.com/cloud/networks/faq#can-networks-span-multiple-locations What's new, Cloud: https://docs.hetzner.cloud/whats-new --Katie, Hetzner

AP @apitman Peer Contributor

I maintain a list[0] of tunneling software a la ngrok or Cloudflare Tunnel and open source alternatives. I'm considering entering the commercial market and offering a hosted solution.

These services tend to have very low CPU/RAM requirements, but relatively high network usage. This led me to comparing network usage pricing across VPS providers.

Somewhat ironically, Hetzer's pricing (20TB/mo for a $5 VPS) is so good that it makes me worried to build on them, because I could go from huge margins to losing money overnight if they ever raised them.

[0]: https://github.com/anderspitman/awesome-tunneling

RA @ralferoo Peer Contributor

Seems quite pricey to me:

CPX11 - 2 shared vCPU, 2 GB RAM, 40 GB, 1TB bandwidth, €7.90 + VAT

CCX13 - 2 dedicated vCPU, 8 GB RAM, 80 GB, 1TB bandwidth, €21.50 + VAT

For comparison with Germany, Finland and US with 20 TB bandwidth: CCX12 is €4.35 + VAT, CCX13 is €12.49 + VAT

People have been asking for other regions for a long time, but Hetzner is usually extremely good price for the specs but in this case the bandwidth allowance is very low (and €7.40+VAT/TB overage) and there are other providers (e.g. greencloud) who can beat this with their standard prices and massively beat this when they run promotions.

NO @notsylver Peer Contributor

I hope storage boxes come to Singapore, they're ridiculously affordable for backups. I don't see it happening though, considering the US datacenter still doesn't have them available. I can dream I guess - the ping from AU to EU/US is so high that it takes months to backup to them, but nothing else is affordable unless you're only backing up a few TB.

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