ENGINEERING ★ 9 upvotes 2024

Hetzner Oregon region IP's blocked by sites

The Founder's Submission

Direct narrative and submission text authored by @jollyjerry on Hacker News:

I was tracking down why my app couldn't make http requests after moving to Hetzner. Initially, I suspected openssl handshake issues based on the error messages, but after making sure that all the versions were the same to compare with a working host, I realized that the oregon region IP's are just blocked. Support was quick to answer, suggesting creating another instance / IP. However, all the IP's were 5.78.x.x, and they all appear to be blocked as well.

$ curl https://www.google.com -vvv # snip

403. That’s an error.

Your client does not have permission to get URL / from this server. That’s all we know. * Connection #0 to host www.google.com left intact

Creating another VM in Virginia region running the same commands work:

$ curl https://www.google.com -vvv 302 Moved 302 Moved The document has moved here.

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HE @Hetzner_OL Peer Contributor

In case you haven't done so already, please let our support team know about this at the end of your support ticket: "Support was quick to answer, suggesting creating another instance / IP. However, all the IP's were 5.78.x.x, and they all appear to be blocked as well. [...] Creating another VM in Virginia region running the same commands work." It can be helpful for our team to know what troubleshooting works. And thank you in advance. --Katie

JM @jmspring Peer Contributor

A buddy and I have both run into the bad IP range in Oregon. We moved to using VMs in Virginia. It wasn't worth chasing down the bad IP range. I always use a blacklist check - https://mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx - for instance.

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