Show HN: World class unlimited email hosting for all your domains from $4/month
Published in 2016, this chronicle by @dejan details the mechanics of building a profitable, self-funded business without venture backing. Key verified financial milestone: $4/month.
Core Principles for Independent Builders:
Charging customers from day one acts as the ultimate filter for building software that solves genuine, high-urgency problems.
Keeping fixed overhead low and leveraging lean infrastructure allows founders to stay alive until market tailwinds kick in.
Small, repetitive improvements in customer retention and conversion rates yield massive returns over multi-year horizons.
Community Debate Themes:
The community focused on B2B customer acquisition channels, cold email vs SEO distribution, and balancing full-time employment with side-project development.
CATEGORY Bootstrapping & MRR →
HISTORICAL ERA Cloud & Mobile Era (2014–2019)
COMMUNITY SCORE ★ 336 points
TOTAL DISCUSSIONS 182 comments
This is how I do email:
- Use my domain providers 1GB mailbox.
- IMAP on the phone, POP3 on the PC.
- I'm currently not subscribed to any high-volume mailing lists, and won't unless I'm a very active contributor. The only lists I follow is the announce lists from GNU, OpenBSD and FreeBSD. You don't need to subscribe in order to post to many email lists.
- Pop my mail into my computer, use procmail to check for spam & virus (spamassassin, clamav), sort likely spam into spam mailbox, non-spam into inbox, rest to /dev/null (spamassassin score>5 and/or clamav virus check positive). If I'm on any moderate-or-high-volume lists, sort them into different mailboxes (most the content there is not sent to me, so no need to have them in front of me every time I look at my inbox).
- My inbox receives many updates from services and newsletters I'm subscribed to. I delete most mail from those if I won't have to return to them (e.g. a message about an event next week, I add the event to my agenda if I'm participating, and delete the mail; copy the relevant text to my agenda if necessary).
- Report to spamassassin and delete any message that escaped it and made it to my inbox.
- Check spam every-so-often, report ham and move to inbox, delete the rest.
- Use a combination of mpop, msmtp, procmail, spamassassin, clamav, Rmail, Org-Mode and mairix to get all this going (K9 mail on Android for IMAP there). Sounds complex, but isn't, nowadays I've tuned my setup to be pleasing. The only thing I'd like to do in future is to do POP, SMTP, sorting and search in Emacs instead of through all those programs.
One shortcoming of my setup is that once I pop my mail, I can't view it on mobile anymore. That's something I can fix (maybe there's an app for Android that can read local mail in the SD card), but I haven't had a problem up until now. And no, I'm not a unix-vintage-guy or whatnot, this setup is practical and pleasing to use (at least in my case), and I own all my mail the moment I pop it from my server, and nobody has a copy of it. If it's not on your disks, you don't own it.
Just switched over my Google hosted domains to this. I really only need email, so GSuite is overkill. Why does my throw away email address need a youtube/calendar/google+ account...... I actually originally switched from my old gmail address to my GApps email, but Google ruined it by making GApp accounts inferior. You can't do tons of stuff (Family Library is just 1 example), so I switched back. I use my gmail account as a webclient for my other accounts (pop/smtp).
I got Google apps when it launched and was a great free option. Now they're removed free accounts, and even on the grandfathered free accounts, they don't let you add new domains anymore... I really just have 1 important account, and unimportant ones for hobby domains, so this is a great option for me. I considered PO Box for my important account, but for now, I'll just try this for all my domains.
I really like the simplicity. I sent some test emails: Google and my work's exchange correctly get the email. outlook.com flagged as spam. I only have 2 concerns. 1, they need 2FA ASAP (which they've acknowledged), and 2, how long will these guys be around. How many employees are there, how much investment. It would suck if 12 months from now they shut down. It would be a scramble to move something as important as email. Rather than shutdown, most companies in these types of businesses up the price, remove features from the cheaper plans etc...there's no promise of price lock-in here, but since that's their market, I suspect they're aware of the effect a price increase might have.
This looks pretty slick and well done for having a comprehensive FAQ section and plenty of info which answered most of my questions.
For me, email is the 'master key' for most of my online accounts (because password resets are done via email so if your email account is compromised an attacker can quickly leverage access to other services) and email security is top priority. I didn't see anything about using two-factor authentication with this service - is it available?
Also, your site only supports obsolete HTTPS protocols. TLS 1.0 and SSLv3. You should drop SSL 3 and enable support for TLS 1.2. Here's a test you can run with feedback and resources to learn more about secure configurations: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=migadu.com&s=91.121.157.186&latest
While looking through I noticed this from the latest changelog post:
$2 per month is pretty good, or it makes the 'standard' plan roughly the same as non-discounted 'mini'.
Not entirely sure yet where you enter this code so I sent them a question.
--edit
Very quick response from the team.
You have to upgrade once first, then apply the code via Account > Coupons. So, upgrade to a monthly mini, apply the code, then upgrade to the plan you're after (the initial $5 will be subtracted from a yearly code if you select one). The code should apparently remain active no matter what once it's applied.
I understand why you put in the drawbacks section, I know that kind of anti-marketing can work. But it's a little too honest - nobody wants to read that their emails might end up as junk mail. Maybe be a bit more vague. Or if you're not significantly worse than your competitors on that front it's a bit misleading if you're disclaiming it as a drawback.
Also, when you open up a link in the menu as a new tab (via middle mouse button) the current tab becomes unusable due to the loading icon you overlay. Very annoying!
And finally - it'd be good to have a demo of the web client without having to register. Because that's essentially what most people will be paying for since email plumbing is pretty standard across providers.